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I have so enjoyed all of the info that I have received since I have joined the list. Now I finally need help please!
Quick question, ready to attempt the installation of the headliner. What type of insulation/sound deadener, also if jute (etc) what type of glue/fastener? Has anyone installed the headliner? If so, suggestions?
Marcia
For the adhesive, you need the 3M stuff.
For the insulation, I used the bubble/reflective stuff you can get at home depot or lowes, part number bp48025.
It fits perfectly between the roof, the crosspiece, and the sides on my valiant. I think it helps, but I also replaced all the door windlace, so ???
As far as doing this yourself, I will second Lee Hat's advice when he said, "Don't do it". If you want it perfect, hire a pro. If you want to learn something, and can accept something less than perfection, go ahead and give it a whirl.
Some important points to consider:
- The front and rear glass need to come out to do this.
- The bows need to be in order. If you've lost the order, I can look for my notes to see what colors go where. (may be different in a cuda, i don't know)
- The FSM (Factory Service Manual) is very helpful. Get one if you don't have one.
- The easier parts are the front, rear and sides-everything but the sail panel area.
When I did this, I did the front first (from the middle out), then the back (from the middle out), then the sides, then the sail panels.
- The hard part is that the sail panels can't really be pulled taught like the front to rear and side to side can. I got a few ripples and would have gone with less tension everywhere if I did it again so the fabric could be more easily manipulated in this area. I also think that doing the sides before the rear may be a good option. The FSM isn't really specific on this point.
- The dome light hole needs to be there and on mine it ended up exactly where it was on the old headliner. It's bulky enough to cause problems if you try to cut the hole after the headliner is up.
- The visors need some slack in the material so they don't tear it when screwed in.
Clamps are helpful, but the glue goes through the perforations so be careful.
Here's a helpful link:
Also helpful are a grip like a gorilla and 4 arms.
Daryl Howland
OK, I'll break the silence. Has anyone removed/replaced the headliner in
their '65-'66 Barracuda? I have my original headliner loose around the
edges and both front and rear glass out. How do the rods remove? Do you
push up on them at one end? I've tried and they sure seem to be tight in
there. Anybody done this?
Bob Jasinski
had my headliner out when I painted the car. Here are a couple of
items that may help.
1. the rods are color coded as to where they fit. each rod is
different, the service manual shows the color code, but it is best to
mark them before you take em out.
2. the rods are just hooked in the slots on the side and run thru the
fabric of the headliner. You can bow them out.
3. the front and back of the fabric are captured on hooks in the body
that look like serrations punched in the sheet metal.
4. the fabric is glued at the sides, front and back. When installing
the headliner it needs to be stretched front to back and hooked. Now
here is the bind. I did my while the glass was out. Infinitely easier
than with glass in. I assume it can be done with the glass in but
because the hooks are under thr rubber lip of the gasket it is tough
to hook the fabric under the gasket.
5. I used spray on contact cement to glue mine in, and also glued a
insulation panel to the roof. Not sure this makes a difference as my
exhaust is so loud.....
6. Harden Musclecars sells a great repop headliner for $45.00 (check for a current price)
I have some pics on the wesite that may help.
http://home.comcast.net/~barracuda1965/welcome.mht
MAZ
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The only thing I can add is I do upholstery
for a living so I always remove the back glass on a barracuda - also - For
gluing side pillars I use "Weldwood Landau adhesive" (only comes in 1 & 5
gallons and applied with a spray glue gun). A good adhesive off the shelf is
"3M Hi-Strength 90" - comes in a 17oz rattle can. (works well).
Kerry Shu
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